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blocking system/safety update

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Posted: Tue, 13/02/2024 20:56 (9 Months ago)
Yeah, this can help when it comes to dealing with people that are online creeps.
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Posted: Wed, 06/03/2024 01:13 (8 Months ago)
Still would ABSOLUTELY love to have a "Blocklist" like we do the "Friendslist" it would be so wonderful to have a list of everyone you've blocked and vice versa so mistakes don't happen. I can't remember everyone I've blocked (especially since some happened around first joining 7 years ago) and I've accidentally joined their giveaways or visited their page (which I don't enjoy blocked users creeping on me) so it would just be very nice to have.

I imagine the coding would be quite similar? I'm not a huge coder though so not positive. Just seems like it would be pretty much like the friend list code.

I would have made a suggestion for this but I'm not digging through years of stuff to possibly find nothing to just be yelled at or shot down because it is actually somewhere and I just couldn't find it. 🤷‍♀️
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Posted: Wed, 06/03/2024 01:25 (8 Months ago)
They should also add that they cant view your fourms and comment on your fourms


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Posted: Fri, 22/03/2024 21:39 (8 Months ago)
i think its wonderful that we are getting a bunch of improvements and reworkings with events but im really hoping we can get some sort of update or check in with how things are going with the blocking system/safety overhaul riako was assuring us about

its been almost 7 months since weve heard anything and with all that happens with the notification wall it would be really nice to have
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Posted: Sat, 23/03/2024 13:09 (8 Months ago)
I like this idea. I haven't had any stalkers or people I need to block yet, but if I ever do, I'd definitely want them not to be able to see my profile. If I need to block someone I don't want them to find me at all. Even if we let them see part of the profile, I think they should not be able to see contact links, because with contact links, they can stalk you somewhere else.




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Skippy
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Posted: Sat, 23/03/2024 15:37 (8 Months ago)
@shinyvirizon They can’t see contact links but they can still see your feeds on the notif wall even if you have it toggled to make it so they can’t see your feeds also if they have you friended and you can’t remove people who’ve added you, I know some people put contacts or ways to find them in their about me’s and stuff tho, so that would still be visible to people you’ve blocked. Also blocked people no longer show up on your recent visitors so you would have no idea if they are still stalking or viewing your profile after you blocked them
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Posted: Sat, 15/06/2024 00:26 (5 Months ago)
The biggest issue is removing the profile as a whole- the feeds thing makes sense, but if you can't see a blocked profile that'd mean you'd have to be logged in. Which isn't good for if someone (like myself) wants to send someone who doesn't play the game a link to my profile, they wouldn't be able to see it. (Also this would discourage these people from joining this game/community)
The feeds thing makes sense, for security reasons, but also as someone said before some people block people who are annoying them but still wish to have the ability to help them.
The obvious solution, which I didn't realize until I wrote this, would be to have a tick box in the settings tab that says something like "Don't allow guests/blocked users to see my feeds or profile" which would be unticked until a user changed it, as not to inconvenience current users or discourage new ones as mentioned above.
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Posted: Sat, 15/06/2024 01:41 (5 Months ago)
this makes a lot of sense if youre wanting to share around your profile to people tho idk how common it is for people to do that with someone who doesnt play the game however id argue it wouldnt really discourage people from joining site as i dont think peoples profiles are what lure people to the game if that makes sense, the only way i can see new members really stumbling onto peoples profiles without searching for users is by clicking their names when their eggs show up on the front page. its the gameplay that lures people here not the social media or the users

the only real issue i could see with doing that is like anon clicking on peoples partys, i think optional private profiles are a good way to go too i dont dissagree with that, tho i do worry for the people who put any sort of contacts in their about me
my sentiment still remains if you are to block someone it should mean it as a message that you no longer want engagement with that person thats why blocking exists and there are plenty of other people who can help them too so its not something you have to really worry about if someones driving ya crazy

i still think the blocking system and the way everythings set up is still extremely flawed, my main concerns are:

- you can still see the feeds of people who blocked you if youve added them to your friendslist something you can still do after they blocked you (and something the person who blocked you cannot control because they cannot remove you)

-people who have blocked yous feeds still show up on the notif wall on the "recent posts" and also on trending

- people who we do blocks feeds still show up reguardless there is no way to avoid seeing peoples feeds unless they block you and even then, as shown above, it doesnt take them away completely. i dont think its a bad idea to have blockees posts at least have a "hidden" feature because the amount of times i or others i know have gone on the notif wall and gotten triggered or put in really bad headspaces by people talking about their like personal trauma and just really sensitive topics or see people post the most braindead hate feeds ive seen in my life is staggering and it would be just so awesome if people had a way to like not see it if they didnt want it. i really go on the notif wall sometimes and then instantly go "ah man 🧍"

(hope my tone in this post sounds okay/not rude i dont mean it to be i am very very tired, unrelated to the pokeheroereoes)
Skippy
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Posted: Sat, 15/06/2024 02:01 (5 Months ago)
im sure theres a few more points as well its been a few months since theres been any real discussion on this so id have to read through the prior discussion a bit more which i can unfortunately not do right now ill see if i can come back in like a few hours or so and reread it all

if anyones new to looking at this suggestion id recommend also looking through all the prior posts before voting as its got a few rather good points and discussions in it that bring up some valid concerns other than the initial post /gen

and as always if anyones got anything to add or concerns etc to share please feel free to add them
Cheesy
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Posted: Sat, 15/06/2024 12:49 (5 Months ago)
Nice ideas
Skippy
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Posted: Fri, 23/08/2024 18:57 (3 Months ago)
another nice idea i cant remember if mentioned already, would be if we block someone it makes them auto unadd you and vice versa from your friendslist
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Posted: Sat, 24/08/2024 21:02 (3 Months ago)
Actually, I would prefer if 'user cannot see your feeds/comments/etc' and 'user cannot contact you' were two separate options

Pokeheroes is both a game and has social elements, so while I may be annoyed with a user for being annoying privately, i might not have problems with the public content they make, or I may be annoyed with a user's content, but still want to contact them for trades/commissions etc.

As an example,

If a user kept palpadding me to trade unsolicited, I would like them to not be able to contact me. Their feeds may still be interesting or informational, I just don't want to interact directly.

On the other hand, I might find a user annoying, or they post content that is triggering to me, but. I may still want to contact them occasionally to trade though. It's like pressing the "I want to see lesser of this type of content" button

Realistically, I would have 'users cannot see your feeds' apply to the notification page and notification wall only, because people tend to react badly to being blocked, and I don't want to notify them that I'm avoiding their content. I know many users avoid blocking as well as they see it as a drastic action
Skippy
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Posted: Sat, 24/08/2024 22:52 (3 Months ago)
this is a really specific example, it seems like your looking more for a restrict feature which i super wouldnt mind having, but this suggestion is for a block system specifically, a block being a cut of contact in its entirety

i can understand why youd want it set up that way but thats extremely specific and im not sure if that really alligns with how a block feature works, again its more similar to a mute or restrict feature if that makes sense

this system is less about people who are annoying or inconveniencing and more about keeping people safe from others actively being freaks to you (ie that random guy who PMed repeatedly telling me i was going to hell and that god hated me)
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Posted: Sat, 24/08/2024 23:08 (3 Months ago)
i dont see why these things cant coexist if we're discussing wider blocking functions. i'm telling you that the way i want to control my interactions with people may differ from your definition of blocking. or that blocking is not a clear cut concept across all social media sites, and i'm bringing this up in case other users also have other ways they'd like "blocking"/"restricting interaction" to be implemented.

(for example, blocking on whatsapp still allows people to view message history, whereas blocking on telegram will erase the message history as well)

and yes a 'restrict' function (thank you for the term because i honestly forgot) can be separate but I'm bringing this up

i tried to be vague because i don't want to reference specific users but there are also users who i'm extremely uncomfortable with for various reasons (stuff that happened irl, triggers, bad past interactions, difference in worldviews) and i don't want them to know i'm uncomfortable with them, because sometimes it can be my issue, not theirs.

for example, triggers are definitely a safety issue, especially if someone has an uncommon trigger, and may not find them tagged often. if another user keeps posting about the trigger, a restrict function would be good so they they can avoid such content
Skippy
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Posted: Sun, 25/08/2024 00:49 (3 Months ago)
rewritten now that i can properly convey what i mean:

I like don’t disagree with you I made a post discussing my issue with triggering feeds too a couple posts up I just mean to say this forum is specifically about updating the blocking system
I don’t think a restrict feature is a bad idea either, but i dont think people should have to pick one or the other. say it does become a toggleable option, thats all well and good but what if you come across someone who is adamently creepy or makes you extremely uncomfortable and you want nothing to do with them and you dont them to see your posts and vice versa what if someone who has people blocked for good reason wants to restrict someone else
i think baseline people should have the option to fully block someone regardless of whether or not they think theyd use it or feel they need it, just that its there if they do
i think a restrict feature would just work best as a separate feature but its also 100 percent perfectly understandable if you disagree there i super dont mean anything ill by it nor do i think youre bad for viewing it differently

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Posted: Sun, 25/08/2024 17:54 (3 Months ago)
This is a great suggestion! Some people would definitely benefit from this