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Shiny Wondertrade is an interesting feature I think. You put a shiny in there and by the next day, it is fun to think what shinies would u get in return.

However, this situation is rarely seen in SWT. What is left to be excited about? Just the same old shiny gyarados or beedrill or gengar. no offense to these pkmns.

With this, I am suggesting a way that can encourage users to place a bit more "uncommon" shinies in the wondertrade without disregarding those who simply do the wondertrade for the sake of getting rid of their excess shinies from their hunts.

We know that every time we do a SWT, we have a chance to get a code with chance to hatch a shiny ho-oh. And many ppl, including me, only uses the wondertrade solely for that reason. though, once or twice, we get lucky and receive a nice shiny. However, what if shinies who are of more value will earn more chance to get the code for shiny ho-oh? Placing a shiny eevee in the SWT would yield more chance than placing a shiny ponyta on it. This way would be encouraged to place more "uncommon" shinies in the SWT. Moreover, ppl still can get to place the common shinies (gyarados, beedrill, gengar trio XD) but with lower chance of getting the code.

But, is there a way to quantify the value of pkmn being placed in wondertrade?

Yes. One thing that is hidden in pokeheroes is the existence of the "stonks", as users would call it.
In here, pkmns can be quantified and priced based on their selling price in the market.

However, what does this tells?
There is indeed a way for the system of PH to quantify the rarity of the pokemon here.
Though not always the case, but in most cases, pricey shinies are rarer. A rarer shiny suicune is more expensive than a shiny magikarp.
However, even though there are shinies which are pricey but not that rare (such as combee), this still mean that users would find it hard to let them go since they are expensive. Why would u let go of a shiny male combee that can be sold for around 200K PD?

Now, since we can quantify the value of shinies, then that means we can also quantify the value of the pkmns that is being placed in the shiny wondertrade for exchange.

With this, shinies which are more expensive according to stonks will give more chances on getting the code of shiny ho-oh, which in turns motivate users to place more "uncommon" shinies in SWT.


Question
What about shinies with no records on stonks?
Sadly, there are shinies with no records on stonks. But, this is because these shinies are very valuable as compared to getting a shiny ho-oh code. Why would u trade ur shiny ditto for a chance to get a code?
But, what if I just really want the code and wants to maximize ur chance OR simply just want to surprise the receiver? Well, for this case, we can set a constant value for shinies with no records on stonks. This value must be high, of course. This way, the program will read these shinies more valuable since they are rarely seen in the market.

What about shinies who recently released in the site so there are still no records of them?
Well, for shinies of newly released pkmns, we can set the constant value for them lower as compared to those shinies of no record but is already in the site for a long time. This constant value will stay like that until there is enough data in the stonks of its value, or until after a period of days. If there are still no data on its price after a period of days, then it is safe to assume that the shiny is indeed very valuable.

Add-ons
Also, maybe users who place a shiny in SWT will also have a bit higher chance of receiving shinies of the same value.

Suggestions from Other Users

Quote from DragonSumedh

"Shinies with mega-forms should also be banned so users would not be able to use them during SWT."

Quote from ShinxThunderFangCrunch

"Shinies with mega-forms should NOT be banned so users would ALSO be able to use them during SWT."

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Bumping this thread.

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I'd like to add to the suggestion, instead of using Stonks or any other tool for SWT it would be better if SWT eliminated pokemons who are shiny-mega hunted.

This will ensure that we don't see the same gengar and beedrill combo.

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@dragonsumedth- Gengar-beedrill combo. Why do I feel guilty about that? Hahaha.

Anyways, I also agree on that idea. In order to make everyone put more "uncommon" shinies, why not just remove these "common" shinies?

However, other users might find it difficult to agree on it, specially those who have a ton of spare shinies with mega-forms.
Furthermore, though I also think of it as plausible, would it really solve the problem without creating a new one? If pkmn with mega-forms are banned from SWT, then would easier pkmn (such as beach shinies, honeytree shinies, butterfree) would replace them?

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Beach and honeytree shinies are atleast valuable and they have variety but with mega able pokemons they are the same easy rarity ones.

Also most people who hunt shiny megas release the pokemon or sell the pokemon for lower price in AH.

With the current state of SWT all you get in return are the same mega shinies just with different OT.

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Though there are different species of beach and honeytree shinies, unfortunately, honeytree or beach shinies does not encapsulate the majority of the population of shinies.
What I suggest for the SWT is we get shinies which are totally random and not is expected from a certain group of pkmn.

I agree with your idea, banning shinies with mega-form might be a good idea, but still we should still incentivize users who put shinies which are not caught from honeytree or the beach. Or else, we will get a public trade where users will say something like "Looking for beach/honeytree shinies for SWT". It will just similar to what we see now. :(

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Bumping this thread again. :)

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Bumping this thread again. :)

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I like this idea if only because I find it more fun when random things such s wonder trades are more varied. Plus it might encourage more people to use the shiny wonder trade instead of just selling their shiny Pokémon. Maybe.

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Banning Pokemon with mega forms SHOULD NOT occur. Think of the EVENT Pokemon? What if someone is SM hunting an event Pokemon and naturally gets WAY MORE shinies than SMs? Do you know how many there are in that category?
Turzai line (3 Pokemon)
Summer Ampharos line (3 Pokemon)
Spring Ampharos line (3 Pokemon)
Autumn Ampharos line (3 Pokemon)
Winter Ampharos line (3 Pokemon)
Obsidionix line (2 Pokemon)
Crystal Aron line (3 Pokemon)
Torcharch line (3 Pokemon)
Larviprop line (3 Pokemon)
Mr. Bagon line (3 Pokemon)
Von Bagon line (3 Pokemon)
Dark Ponyta line (2 Pokemon)
Cottonblu line (2 Pokemon)
Rokkyu line (2 Pokemon)
Festival Ralts line (3 Pokemon)
Slowyore line (3 Pokemon)

Do you know how many fairly rare EVENT Pokemon that would exclude? 47 event Pokemon! It might not be common, but that's mainly just because event hunting is hard. And do you know WHY it's hard? Because people don't want to deal with the daycare, which you don't have to deal with if you get the shiny forms of the event Pokemon from SWT! And Stonks is accurate to a degree, but I've often quoted it and been told by many other users not to use it to price Pokemon but that items were just fine because various factors can change the price of the Pokemon you're dealing with but all the items look at is the plain price, pretty much.

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Bumping this one.

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honestly although this seems nice in concept, rich users could take advantage of this by trading unneeded high value shinies to win day after day or could potentially rig it in their favor just to hoard the codes and sell them. id prefer everyone having equal/semi-equal chances to win and seeing the same shinies (even if they can get annoying) than an imbalanced range of %s and possibly the same users winning more often than others.

Bumping.

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Bump.

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