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Premium user perks at game center

Forum-Index Suggestions Rejected Premium user perks at game center
IcyGrayz
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Posted: Mon, 04/10/2021 00:26 (3 Years ago)
It would be great if premium users can get extra perks in the game center such as:
1. Lottery max tickets increase to 15-20k/day
2. Coinflip max bet increase to 20k or more.
3. Treasure hunt pick from 6-8 chests only.
4. Hangman gives more chances/lives.
5. Concentration gives one extra level - Very Hard.
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Posted: Sun, 24/10/2021 15:50 (3 Years ago)
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Posted: Sun, 24/10/2021 20:50 (3 Years ago)
I... don't know if I have any opinion on this as a whole. The one idea I'd disagree with is having a bonus difficulty on Concentration, since it doesn't feel right that an exclusive difficulty is present with premium. I'd be most in favor of higher lottery capacity, and probably not in favor of anything where premium outright makes things easier. I'm not sure if I'm doing premium, so I don't want that much to favor payers.
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Posted: Tue, 26/10/2021 04:26 (3 Years ago)
Sooner or later everything would end up as pay to play.. We don't want that😐 so no from me. Even though i enjoy being premium before.
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Posted: Sat, 30/10/2021 20:29 (3 Years ago)
In general, premium having an effect in the Game Center is a decent idea, but it'd be a tough job to make "fair" for lack of a better word. I think the first two suggestions for lottery and coinflip I'm neutral towards. They don't give you a clear advantage, just a license to gamble more (which is a potential for a bigger payout and I don't really know how much of a difference that makes so take my thoughts with a grain of salt).

However, the other three would be too much of an advantage in my opinion. A whole new extra concentration level especially.
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Posted: Thu, 04/11/2021 12:07 (3 Years ago)
That would turn PH slowly into a pay to play game so I disagree
IcyGrayz
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Posted: Thu, 04/11/2021 15:01 (3 Years ago)
Well, Isn't the current perks for premium users is already a feature for pay to play?
I think these features give a much lower impact to the game than the current perks of higher shiny chances, increased ehp/exp, poke radar, faster analysis and much more.

Besides, free players can get nuggets to get those premium perks, so it isn't really a pay-to-play feature. Just my opinion tho.

Also, I like to believe that the paying users are there to help the developers so a little pay-to-play feature like this doesn't really bother me since the dev team had provided a game that we can enjoy and go back to after our daily hustle. :)
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Posted: Thu, 04/11/2021 15:53 (3 Years ago)
Quote from IcyGrayzWell, Isn't the current perks for premium users is already a feature for pay to play?
I think these features give a much lower impact to the game than the current perks of higher shiny chances, increased ehp/exp, poke radar, faster analysis and much more.

Yes, true, some of the current perks are really good, but that doesn't mean more perks should be implemented.

Essentially "Premium users already have great perks so we might as well add this smaller perk." is flawed logic and there's no end to it. You can just keep going "Oh well, we already added thing X so why not add thingy Y and Z too, it's no biggie." Just because the already existing perks are better than the ones you're proposing doesn't mean implementing them wouldn't have an impact.

But like I said, I'm not opposed to premium perks in the Game Center as a concept. I think expanding the limits of gambling (lottery max tickets and coinflip max bet) would probably be fine and comparable to increased ehp/exp and faster egg analysis in the lab for example. However, putting things like reduced treasure hunt chests and a new concentration level behind premium would be more akin to giving premium users an extra party slot or an extra egg to choose from at the lab. I don't think we need more of that kind of 'premium only' features on PH, shiny hunting and event passes are enough as big perks like that.

(Something that's worthy of note is also that those big perks (shiny hunting and event shiny hunting) are kind of 'bonus content' so to speak. You don't need shinies to fill your dex and 'finish the game'. Meanwhile, the Game Center is needed to obtain just regular pokemon for your dex and even involves competing against other users (Raffle). So giving premium users very clear advantages in there would be a big deal.)
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IcyGrayz
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Posted: Thu, 04/11/2021 16:08 (3 Years ago)
Quote from FinhawkHowever, putting things like reduced treasure hunt chests and a new concentration level behind premium would be more akin to giving premium users an extra party slot or an extra egg to choose from at the lab.


Now that you put it like that, I do see them as a big advantage for the premium users. Perhaps it would be much fairer if it is something that can be unlocked by every1 much like the fisherman hat.

Quote from FinhawkYou don't need shinies to fill your dex and 'finish the game'.


Well, to be honest, I do think that almost every1 in the game is playing to complete their shiny collection and consider it as 'finishing the game'. :P
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Posted: Thu, 11/11/2021 05:07 (3 Years ago)
I disagree because
1. Some people just can't afford premium ( or nuggets tbh here )
2. I'm pretty sure that'd just make the game center less fair then it already is.
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FlanChan495
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Posted: Sat, 13/11/2021 15:40 (3 Years ago)
Don't support, I think this is unfair for people without premium
IcyGrayz
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Posted: Mon, 15/11/2021 08:30 (3 Years ago)
Well, It's just a suggestion but I do still have to defend my opinion. :)

For Pikachu_Playz
1. Free players can get nuggets (premiums) by buying them from the GTS.
2. What do you mean "less fair than it already is"? Premium users have no current advantages in game center rn and it's the same for all players, so nobody is being treated less fair.

For LordSmileyFace

Well yeah. For me, that's the whole point of having a premium = having an advantage over the people not having them. The current perks are already 'unfair' for people without a premium if I would say so myself.

Anyway, it's only my suggestion by thinking that premium users = have advantages over non-premium users, so using the word 'fair' to level the playing field between premium users and non-premium users doesn't really make any sense for me.

I agree with Finhawk tho.
When he said "Yes, true, some of the current perks are really good, but that doesn't mean more perks should be implemented."

So like I said, I'm just trying my luck on suggesting something for the premium users. Cheers :)
FlanChan495
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Posted: Tue, 30/11/2021 22:37 (2 Years ago)
I feel like adding more premium perks makes the game a bit more pay-to-win though, and I don't really think premium should really be expanded from being something only worth getting if you actively shiny hunt
CatLady
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Posted: Wed, 20/04/2022 12:51 (2 Years ago)
This suggestion has received less than 60% support and was moved to rejected.

Total votes: 63
Support ratio: 25.4%
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