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Auction House: Bid Cancels

Forum-Index Suggestions Rejected Auction House: Bid Cancels
Pain
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Posted: Sat, 10/06/2017 23:08 (7 Years ago)
I've experienced this a few times, and I know others have had this same problem as well.
For the most part, we've all been there.
That instant regret when you realize you hit the zero one more time than you meant to, and now your only hope is that the user will be nice enough to return some of the extra Pokedollar.

My Suggestion


I propose we add a 'cancel bid' option, which is only available up to 2 minutes after you offer on the Pokemon, and for the last 30 minutes of the auction, it will also be unavailable. (To prevent last-minute backing out on an auction.)

I believe this will help prevent a lot of accidental overbids and save people from messing up their balances over a small, easily avoidable mistake.

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Fernsong
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 05:36 (7 Years ago)
Well, there's two things wrong with this suggestion: Firstly, it was suggested and rejected many times before. I will link as many suggestions as I can find. Secondly, this could easily be abused.
Pain
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 12:17 (7 Years ago)
I disagree on both those points; I think I have actually changed it enough that it is not the same suggestion exactly, and that I the way I have stated would prevent abuse of the feature if implemented.

By only making the option available when the auction has more than 30 minutes remaining, and up to 2 minutes after the bid was posted makes abuse extremely difficult.

You could only change the bid immediately after posting it as I stated, and as the auction is coming to an end, all bids posted are final. Abusing that seems rather difficult in my opinion.

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toma
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 17:39 (7 Years ago)
No support for these two reasons:

a. This, like Jek_Porkins stated, has been suggested and rejected a number of times. You're supposed to check whether it's been suggested and/or rejected before you create your thread.

b. This suggestion seems to be among the lines of 'I accidentally released my Pokémon help me get it back' and players asking to get things they accidentally gave away. It's on you for accidently overbidding on something.
Alive
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 20:08 (7 Years ago)
I don't think it is really important idea. In my humble opinion it is not wise to bid on an auction you know you cannot afford. The only thing I could vote on might be 'cancel option' of promotion on AH [with a refund of the rest of P$].
Pain
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 22:12 (7 Years ago)
I guess I have to emphasize this again, so let me repeat; this is not the same suggestion. It is the same idea, yes, however I have changed it to improve upon the reasons the previous ones were rejected.

In response to Alive, this is not at all about deliberately bidding more than you intended or bidding "on an auction you know you can't afford". It's for an accidental bid, where you have have hit a key one extra time, paying 10x more than you intended.

And in response to it being the fault of the person who bid, yes I agree. But comparing it to people who "gave" their things away or "released" their pokemon is completely unreasonable. Those players are asked to CONFIRM before doing so, For example the pop-up notifications asking if you're sure you'd like to release a pokemon, and the multiple times confirming before sending another player an item. When bidding on an auction, the second you hit the enter key it is final.

If the players of this site are so against the idea of a 'cancel bid' option to be available (despite my modifications to make it un-abuseable) then at the very least, there should be a confirmation pop-up asking, "Are you sure you'd like to bid XXXXXX PD for this Pokemon?"

Thanks.
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~Eric
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 22:28 (7 Years ago)
No support, As stated countless times before, it has been suggested countless times before, ok, you changed it a bit, good job, you still accidentally overbid on something, you can't release a shiny mega and get it back, you can't set something up for auction and cancel it, you can't send a pokemon to the rumble areas and get it back before the selected time, And you can't overbid on an auction and get the money back unless you lose the auction.
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Pain
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 23:09 (7 Years ago)
I guess there is no use explaining if you can't take the time to actually understand my points, and there is no use when you seem so set on it that you can't even open your mind to slightly change your opinion, despite anything I say that contradicts it. At least you have the confidence to blindly stick to your immediate thoughts and have absolutely no mind open to opposing arguments. I commend you for that.
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 23:13 (7 Years ago)
Wowowo, a little too rude there? Just because i have no support for your "creative and different" suggestion doesn't mean you have to be fully triggered, lmao
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Pain
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 23:15 (7 Years ago)
I'm not salty over it, or triggered thanks.
But I value your opinion & truly hope the rest of your day goes well, thank you.
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Fernsong
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 23:15 (7 Years ago)
Yeah, I gotta agree with @Epix here. If fine to suggest stuff, but we can have our opinion as well. If we don't like it, others might. That waa also a bit harsh, dont you think?
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 23:17 (7 Years ago)
You are all entitled to your opinions, but when I state a counter-argument and get no response to that, and only the same points I have already refuted, I fail to see how a discussion can even be continued. In a society so close-minded nothing is left to change. I truly do appreciate others' opinions, and I'm happy you're able to voice them here.
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Castalia
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 23:29 (7 Years ago)
Then I would like to state my own opinion, please.. I may also have to agree with users like Epix and Jek_Porkins, though I think that in a perfect world, we can get back released Pokemon, get back items we sold, or even cancel bids on auctions...this isn't a perfect world. I see how this suggestion is good, and can help users who have accidentally bid too much on an auction, but I also think that there are simpler solutions to this problem...
1. Ask for your money back in exchange for the Pokemon. Most users are very nice and understanding. When this has happened to me, every user I talked to was very understanding.
2. THINK BEFORE YOU BID-It takes 10 seconds at most to weigh the pros and cons of bidding on a Pokemon.
3. If you're clumsy, just think a bit more/double check the number your putting in the auction house before sending it. I personally always triple-check the number of PD I put into a Pokemon before sending it.
And this site isn't perfect, and I feel no need to have this suggestion implemented, because things like this would make the game so much easier and more thoughtless/suspenseful for us. Even with the restrictions you have suggested, its still very easy to abuse. (I'm sorry if this is the wrong time to bring myself into this conversation..)

EDIT: Thank you so much! I'm glad my points are clear :3
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Posted: Sun, 11/06/2017 23:33 (7 Years ago)
No I actually appreciate your opinion like all others, however you actually explained and responded to the counter-arguments I made, and make good points yourself.
Thank you for being clear about your points!
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Lyney
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Posted: Mon, 12/06/2017 00:36 (7 Years ago)
No support


Mainly cuz of what the others said


but I also don't want to support who yells at someone because of their opinion hey that sounds like my non-existent life

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Pain
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Posted: Mon, 12/06/2017 00:44 (7 Years ago)
I didn't "yell at" anyone, and certainly not because of their opinion, but the only thing I have a problem with is that several people were unable to defend their points or respond to any counter-arguments I made.

I didn't attack anyone personally, and I'd appreciate if you wouldn't either.
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Miss-X
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Posted: Mon, 12/06/2017 04:21 (7 Years ago)
Sorry, but I don't support this. Even with the time limits, this will still allow users that have no intention of winning an auction to bid. In turn, if another user happens to bid before they withdraw theirs, they'll end up having to pay more. It's something that could be abused.

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Posted: Mon, 12/06/2017 07:58 (7 Years ago)
I could see how that's a possibility, you bring up a good point.
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Posted: Sat, 08/07/2017 21:18 (7 Years ago)
well, I have to say this even though I don´t share my opinion on the topic

destine suggested a fairly abuseproof system

first answer "it´s easy to abuse, no explanation, no support"

destines reaction: "no it´s not, because *reason*"

second answer: "it´s easy to abuse, no explanation, no support"

and so on

after the third time someones "opinion" was "it´s easy to abuse, no explanation, no support" they got rather annoied, which I think is completely understandable, because a lot of people didn´t think about what destines suggestion was even for a second.


CONCLUSION:
THINK BEFORE YOU ANSWER (and this goes to those non-explainers as well as to these "uh salty straight away"-people
Humbloom
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Posted: Sat, 08/07/2017 21:27 (7 Years ago)
I am neutral on this
First of all,stated by everyone,This can be abused and annoying.
But what should be implemented is a pop box saying "Are you sure?"and the amount of pokedollars below the "Are you sure" part.
You will have the option of either yes or no
Now this can take up time if you are trying to snipe but it can be turned off in settings
This "pop up box" could be better than the "cancel" button for a auction

*throws ds at wall*