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Of course it would require some coding work but it's not like that this is about making things easier for lazy people or anything but this suggestion actually would help make trading on the site more safe. A lot.

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True.
It's like
I support this but I don't at the same time???

I feel like this could possibly be abused in some type of way. (Because let's be honest. Users ALWAYS find a way :'/)
But it can be helpful.

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Someone "May" Find a way to abuse A Feature in 'Future' .. so.. for this reason, should we stop creating/ Adding New Feature and making things better and making some modification?

Improvements have been an important part of everything in the world. If something happens in future, Then Even the Improvements can be Improved. That's always happens and that will always be happening.

Simply put, I think the best way to do this is the way the site Flight Rising is planning to change their "Crossroads" system.

Quote from FlightRising

Player A opens a trade with Player B, specifying what they would like to trade away from their current assets, and typing a trade request message specifying what they would like to receive in return. The request is then sent.
Player B will be able to view this message and the exact trade contributions of the request. They will be able to designate what they will be giving back to Player A from their own assets. The request will then be sent back to Player A for final review.
Player A will review Player B's contributions to the trade and may then finalize it if they are happy, causing the items/dragons/currency to then change ownership.

Of course, instead of "Player B" it would be the gts, and instead of dragons it would be pokemon, but you get the point.

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Title: gts

I like this idea I full support you

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A very great idea totally support tell about this to riako in person or maybe a mod nice work:| c: ;)

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great idea^^

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well, I went through each and every post on this thread, and I still find this thread really useful and a must.. :)

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Quote from swagmeowth

As much as I love this suggestion, "3.3 Trading at your own risk. You and you alone are responsible for the trade arrangements you agree on - we will not get your belongings back for you in case of a disagreement. So always make sure you can trust your trading partners." There is really no other way to put it, all traders are warned, and some don't care, so if it happens to them, it was their fault.

Quote from midnightrein

This is a common sense clause in most other site's forums. If you don't trust someone, don't trade with them. It doesn't discourage trading, and if you read the rules it should tip you off that there are scammers floating around, even as a kid

Quote from memequeen

No support.
I would like to point you to rule 3.3

If you get scammed, it's your fault for not being more responsible. This has been suggestive do many times before as well.
It just seems useless to me.

Also the examples are poorly made
And in my opinion this is very poorly explained

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True.
It's like
I support this but I don't at the same time???

I feel like this could possibly be abused in some type of way. (Because let's be honest. Users ALWAYS find a way :'/)
But it can be helpful.

@swagmeowth, PH is a community, and living in a community, it is absolutely necessary to trade, for e.g, if you are completing your dex, and I have the pokemons you need, won't you like to buy it from me? and what if I scam you by keeping the pd and not giving you the pokemons? would you still follow rule 3.3 and not report me, considering that it is YOUR FAULT according to the rule?

@midnight rein= I think even you'll need to trade things on this site.. so do you want to leave things to chance or be 100% sure about the trades..?

@memequeen, if I give the same situation to you as I had given to swagmeowth, would you consider it as your fault? also,

Quote from aragon

-I made it in paint ( I didn't know any other way to make it.. also My English is bad so try to understand what I am trying to say)

as he had stated it in the main post, I don't think that you should say the examples and pics are useless.. this guy had put A LOT OF EFFORT in making them in paint, considering that he is a non-digital artist.. also, according to me, it is well explained too, I completely understood it, but maybe you didn't, so I don't think that it's his fault.. :/
also, if you don't support it by saying that, "USERS MIGHT FIND A WAY TO ABUSE IT", why don't we leave it to riako? I don't think that there might be a possible way to abuse it, but if some users can find it, we can report it to riako, and he will fix it.. :)
still, it is your choice to support it or not.. :)

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Quote from naturalrabbit

I like it but people could easly with two accounts convert currency under 100pd or 50n over to the account

he surely didn't say to remove the limit, so I don't think that they can use it to convert pd or nuggets to the other account.. :)

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Quote from therockers

Pertaining to new users getting scammed, having this function will not help AT ALL. They still can get scammed into paying high amount of pd/nuggets to buy something completely rubbish or selling something valuable at a low price. What this suggestion helps is to prevent scamming in the way where someone sends pd/nuggets first and not get the pokemon/item or vice versa, regardless of New or Experienced players.

how can you say that this will not help to reduce scamming?
the thing you stated (about new users selling or buying stuff in an inappropriate price) can be prevented only if we tell them about this thread.. so, what do you think now.. :)?

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for all the users who say that this will break the rules/ this have been suggested many times before,..

Quote from liirah

this might have been suggested and rejected before but this really needs to happen - and judging by the votes this suggestion has gotten so far, quite a few people think so.

if a very honorable moderator,(liirah, who knows ph rules better than us and will never break any rule), says this then why should we have any problem with it? :P

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I am sorry if I sound rude/noob, or sound a bit understandable, please excuse me for that.. :) thanx

I agree strongly- we need a safer way to trade.

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Okay
You need to chill out with that essay

People are allowed to have opinions.

Just because an "honorable mod" agrees doesn't mean we all need to agree
And you can play the game without trading.

You can trade through friends or get E v e r y t h I n g in a lab hunt. It will take a long time, but it can happen.
So people need to stop using that argument

Stop getting pissy because somebody doesn't have the same opinion than you on a subject.

No offense to you Liirah. I do think you are a great mod but that statement annoyed me.

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Yeah right.

Everyone is allowed to give their opinion and views. Thank you all who gave their views here. Thanks Liirah for "Multiple pokemons offer at once" Advice. Which I have also added to the first post.

@Wahi - Thank you for giving your opinion. warmly appreciated :)

Quote from memequeen

And you can play the game without trading.

hmm.. It's first time I heard something like that. GTS is one of the Most Important feature of pokeheroes (especially for pokemons evolving by trade, item trade etc). Everyone uses it. This suggestion forum is intended to reduce the scamming happens in GTS. Your statements shows - One can skip GTS in order to play the game? Kindly Only give your opinion on the Importance of the suggestion Not the .. Importance of GTS in your eyes. Thank you !

One more thing - We do trades with hundreds of people on here according to our needs. That includes Friends and people We don't know. A few people might get what they want Just from Friends and Lab But A Huge part of Users can't. I guess it will hard to find a person here who never traded anything Ever with a person he don't know(stranger).

By looking at the votes and opinions, almost all users supported this suggestion. Again - thanks a lot. :)

hmmm.. I think you read my post in a wrong tone.. I wrote that in really calm and friendly manner..
you are right, PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE opinions.. and that's what I did, I just wrote whatever I felt..
I NEVER said that you are not allowed to make your own choice, you may read it once again for that matter...
all I wanted to do by posting the message was to correct people on their "thoughts" (i'm not saying that they are wrong or I'm right, for e.g= you may see a few posts, I don't think that they have a strong base (i'm not insulting them), so it was appropriate for me to tell them my views about it)..

about that

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Just because an "honorable mod" agrees doesn't mean we all need to agree
And you can play the game without trading.

when did I say that just Because liirah agrees, you all have to agree it? please read my post CAREFULLY and see, this "honorable mod" thing was for the ones who thought that it is against the rules or will be impossible to code..
and its all your wish if you want to get your "e v e r y t h i n g" from the lab, but I'm sorry, there are many who want to do it quicker, and "just because you think that anyone can do it, it doesn't that they'll have to do it..

at the end, I think I had stated that its all your choice, so it doesn't mean, in any way, that I stated something like come on, leave your ideas behind and follow my way".. :P

the only reason I wanted to SHARE my views (not force them on you) was because if everybody supports it, I think Riako will feel its importance and will code this system, and it will help new comers to trade freely in this game as well as for the old players to trust people more.. ^_^ that was all I wanted to say, at the end, I'll leave it to you to support, oppose or do anything with this suggestion, but please do not post such posts which are offensive (like you stated his hard-work as useless, come on friend, its rude :/) or will make people who like this idea oppose it..
sorry if you think I sound rude again, but if you know my personality (I never speak in a harsh or unfriendly tone or way), you'll come to know in which sense was it written ..
sorry if you still think that it is rude, but I can't help it then, its all your fault, not mine.. so excuse me please..
thanx agian.. :)

By the way
How would this work with gems?
Would you still have to use the GE and such?

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I would not bother answering questions or comments that are just meant to divert everyone's attention off the Main Topic. Apologize and Thanks. ;)

anyways, I think you have a nice idea.. maybe, he can add another thing to the main post, in which you can offer gems on a pokemon too.. (but wait, it will increase the pressure :/) by "pressure" here I mean the load of the main page, people will also think that he is changing the theme of ph.

and moreover, I've never heard anyone getting scammed because of gems, as people usually trade a normal pokemon, for a very small amount of gems, like 1-5.. and they usually prefer not to trade a legendary/ shiny or a mega-able for gems.. :/

so, I consider your post as a way of diverting everyone's attention from the main topic
that's rude, but nevermind
I doubt why are you opposing this thread so much? would you like to live in a community, in which there are many scammers and you'll have to think twice before trading your pokes?

if that's the case, I can't do anything.. sorry..

I think we all need to think a little before we post. MemeQueen was overreacting before, but now she seems to be providing good points.

Gem scamming is entirely possible and something we must think about. Based off of Aragon's examples in the front post, placing an option for gems there might make it too crowded. It's still a good idea to think about how we can implement gems into this suggestion, though.

@ KrazyKarp

Yes that's true.. It will make it over crowded. I guess That's what wahi meant by "it will increase the pressure"... But gem scamming is not what happens often. I personally never heard any case of it.

Also we have a good, Faster and safe way to trade gems i.e. Gem Exchange(GE).

Title: good job

Nice

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Same

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For those who are friends, they may want to donate pokemons but gfs only allow 1 for 1 trade

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