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just i think that it is a good idea to pokeheroes to create some mega pokemon that nintendo doesn`t create ,it would be cool .....but if you don`t like it sorry.....,please instead of complaining just tell ideas of what to do or don`t post anything

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Not supporting.

•I need a better explanation. I cannot read this post well.
•I do not support because I see no point in making megas of Pokémon that don't have them. It just seems strange to me. Some Pokémon that users pick are already good enough and don't need megas or don't need a mega evolution in general. Or what if that Pokémon gets a mega in the future? Sorry.

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i tell you GrandfatherClock that a possibility was making a contest if they made my idea....or that the staff to create mega-pokemon for pokeheroes that are not mega-pokemon that nintendo made .... to make our own mega pokemon creations....thak you for reading my post


if you have any question just palpad me

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I'm sorry, but no support.

- I can barely understand your post.
- Everyday or once a week is way too often for a contest.
- It's also way too often for a release.
- Some Pokemon might be getting megas which will make fan-mades pointless.
- Not every Pokemon needs a mega evolution

Basically what was said before.

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No support.

I had a hard time reading this in the first place, but let me just ...

Quote from GrandfatherClock

I see no point in making megas of Pokémon that don't have them. It just seems strange to me. Some Pokémon that users pick are already good enough and don't need megas or don't need a mega evolution in general. Or what if that Pokémon gets a mega in the future?

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If you want fake Mega Pokemon, allow me to redirect you to Pokéfarm.
Do keep in mind that their Spriters & Spriting suck as well as the entire layout of the site, the community, and especially the Staff. Legit I could do better than them and I've never sprited in my life.

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I just
I can't understand this
Wha-

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sorry but if you don`t ike it just don`t comment if you don`t undertand just ask me

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It takes way too long to make a sprite as well draw out 25-30 hypothetical megas. So if this hypothetical scenario were to occur it should happen every few months. Not every week.

Still. What if Gamefreak decides to make a mega of one of these fan megas? Would we just replace it? Or keep it as a separate Pokemon(kinda like the retro and original starters). If we replaced them then all the hard work just kind of goes to waste. And even if the second option were to occur, it'd be kind of weird having multiple megas with probably very little difference to them. So...no support on my end.

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This was discussed in another thread - I'll have to dig around to find it, and it was REALLY old, so it may be a while, but I'll post it when I locate it. The general idea there was that these could be limited-time event Pokémon instead of permanent releases, and you'd need a special item to be able to hunt them after the event ends; being considered events, then, they wouldn't override any official Megas or vice versa. It wasn't accepted or rejected yet, but kind of died. (In any case, I think it'd be better to just PM a spriter with an already-prepared specific idea at this stage anyway, since I believe Riako has said in the past to send event ideas to them instead of posting them publicly so the surprise isn't ruined.)

EDIT: Found it!
I said there that I made a new thread, but I couldn't find the newer one. XP People kept posting in the old one anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

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Title: to the chukn

just throw this idea to the chunk ...beause anyone want it

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what...?
explain better please.

Okay, I'd like to make a full post, bringing in points from ALL of the threads, and encourage everyone to participate.

This thread dominantly showed support and all of the disagreement that occurred in the beginning, unlike in the next thread, was resolved, with the idea that they could be randomly obtained just like normal Megas, but be event-only (that is, limited-time only) and be made available through special items after the event ended to make up for the fact that they couldn't be in the Event Shop. The only concerns that remained were the workload.
This thread showed that some people disagreed with the idea because new Mega Evolutions would be considered Fakemon. There was some discussion about why they would be considered Fakemon or, for that matter, any different from other PH events, and the thread died on a higher note but without any actual consensus on the matter.
Posts in this thread expressed concerns about the workload and the possibility of official Megas being released later, creating conflict.

I (very, very briefly) spoke to Riako about the idea of having one as an event, because event ideas are supposed to be sent privately to avoid spoilers before they are released. He brought up the point that it being so luck-based may be problematic for people in a limited-time event, and the general lack of support (detailed above), but encouraged me to continue discussing it here.

As such, I am going to address the points against custom Mega Evolutions and explain why I feel that they should be implemented and made available by limited-time event, rather than permanent additions made available in the same way as normal Mega Pokémon.

> Workload issues
Nobody said that there had to be 25-30 released at once. Rather, they would be added one at a time, not frequently, but every few months.

I sent an example I created to Riako (a design and a potential finished sprite) to express the fact that they are not difficult to create every once in a while. It took about an hour and a half total to design it and create the sprite, in one sitting - and event sprites are rarely created in one sitting anyway, so it wouldn't even require that much free time or energy - and I volunteered to create them myself if needed (I'm not a hired PH spriter, but I have a lot of practice with designing Megas and spriting in the official style, so I wouldn't mind contributing), if the workload really is too great for our current spriters (even though, again, nobody said they had to make a ton at once - making one every few months is no different from what they already do with events - so that isn't even a valid concern).
I don't know if I'm allowed to post it in case it is approved due to the mandatory "surprise" factor of events, but I'll attach it here if I am.

> Replacement issues
People have claimed that Game Freak making official Megas of the same species would be a problem. If I may ask, how?
We already have Charizard, which has a chance of being Mega X or Mega Y; additionally, the original thread with this idea decided that they would be events and limited-time-only under most circumstances, so this would really not be a concern anyway.

> Luck issues
To get one from the original event would be extremely luck-based, since it's just like a normal Mega but with limited availability. I don't deny this.
Instead, I bring up a counterpoint: these would be made available later, be it through the Event Shop (past events have already given out Eggs that are guaranteed to be Mega-able, so that's not an issue) or through some kind of "pass" that lets you get past event Megas normally while you have it (as suggested in the other threads with the Old Charm idea).
Additionally, the Hoenn Retros were made exactly like this when they were added. You had a limited time to hatch a bunch of their appropriate Eggs and hope for the best. They were then re-added much later, in a new Rumble Area... that was also event-only, though you had as long as you needed to use it once you did get it; you still can't get those three Retros without trading if you missed both events. Having an Old Charm/"old Mega pass" to obtain them after the event would be similar to this, except NOT being event-only (which makes it even easier) but POTENTIALLY expiring (which is still up in the air, but would still be balanced considering that they wouldn't be event only and the Rumble Area would).

So, the only concern that actually remains is the Fakemon issue. I still believe these would be no different from Events in that regard, since they're not new Pokémon (they're alternate forms), but since that was debated, I suppose that can be considered.

What is your stance on whether or not they would be considered Fakemon, and do you have any issues other than the ones addressed in this post?

(And Snorlaxman, the original thread with this idea DID come to the consensus that they should be considered events rather than identical to normal Megas, or people would not support. Please edit the original post to reflect this so people don't object to this based on your suggestion when the actual consensus that should be considered is different.)

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no support, i dont want fakemon on pokeheroes

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As requested in the above post, could you please explain why you think these would be Fakemon and the existing Events are not?

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mojoryan

You do you know that events are fakemon as well?

Anyways i dont support for reasons that have been stated.

Carpet ninja'd me!

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You don't support for... which reasons that were already stated? Did I miss some? I thought I already countered the reasons that were already stated.

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Carpet

Calm down you know what i meant. :/

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well i consider megas as evolutions, i feel like the current events are fine because they're the same pokemon but wearing outfits or basically the same pokemon.

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Skar - I wasn't being sarcastic or mocking or anything (so no need to say "calm down" as if I'm somehow overreacting?). I genuinely don't know what you mean, because you said "for reasons already stated" and I explained beforehand why the reasons that were already stated didn't apply. You didn't actually give a reason, so no, I don't know what you meant.
Mojoryan - Megas are just alternate forms, canonically speaking, so they are still the same Pokémon just with modifications. And besides...

Which of these looks more different from normal Ampharos? Spring Ampharos has flowers growing all over it, lacks the trademark tail light, and is a completely different color; Mega Ampharos is actually less different, with just a slightly lighter shade of yellow, slightly altered markings, and its fluff (which is precedented by Mareep and Flaaffy and less different than suddenly being floral).

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yes but in my opinion the megas are evolutions event pokemon ar still the same pokemon

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